RIP NASA

Gil · 02-02-2010, 02:36 AM

Ares wasn't going great but instead of a reform they killed the whole program.

Eldorian · 02-02-2010, 06:08 AM

Talondale · 02-02-2010, 06:15 AM

I think he's refering to Obama's budget proposal including killing the manned moon missions.

Eldorian · 02-02-2010, 07:01 AM

Ah yeah, I heard they were privatizing it instead - which actually could maybe speed up the process...

ShneekeyTheLost · 02-02-2010, 11:14 AM

One of my favorite musicians, Leslie Fish, wrote this song after watching the Moon Landing...

This pretty much spits all over that...

Worse, it won't really help anything. You could have taken the entire yearly budget for NASA, and spent it every day for the next twenty five YEARS, and still not be more than a drop in the bucket of the amount Obama has spent in the last year.

So yea... thanks for killing our hopes of spreading to the stars, Obama. Our children won't.

Oh, and here's a link to Time Magazine's article on it: Obama Budget Plan Grounds NASA

Eldorian · 02-02-2010, 12:29 PM

I find it humorous the same people bitching about this are the same people bitching about the cost of the Health Care reform.

Government spending is government spending... I'm not happy with the budget cuts here for NASA - but I don't understand why the same people would be upset over this that are about spending money on health care. You can't have it both ways.

ShneekeyTheLost · 02-02-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eldorian

I find it humorous the same people bitching about this are the same people bitching about the cost of the Health Care reform.

Government spending is government spending... I'm not happy with the budget cuts here for NASA - but I don't understand why the same people would be upset over this that are about spending money on health care. You can't have it both ways.

No, I was bitching about the way he was going about his so-called' health care reform', not the price.

Besides, you are missing a mater of scale. The NASA budget is less than one tenth of one percent of what he's spent in the past year. A drop in the bucket.

Eldorian · 02-02-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ShneekeyTheLost

No, I was bitching about the way he was going about his so-called' health care reform', not the price.

Besides, you are missing a mater of scale. The NASA budget is less than one tenth of one percent of what he's spent in the past year. A drop in the bucket.

Saving money is saving money though right?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't

Guess excessive government spending is ok as long as it's a fraction of government spending elsewhere.

Gil · 02-02-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Eldorian

I find it humorous the same people bitching about this are the same people bitching about the cost of the Health Care reform.

I didn't bitch about health care reform.

I'm also dissatisfied that obama promised more money for space research in his campaign and now he's cutting it.

ShneekeyTheLost · 02-02-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gil

I didn't bitch about health care reform.

I'm also dissatisfied that obama promised more money for space research in his campaign and now he's cutting it.

Oh no, he did increase funding to NASA... it's all just being funneled into special interest groups which helped him get elected. Technically, he kept his word on that one...

Eldorian · 02-02-2010, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gil

I didn't bitch about health care reform.

I'm also dissatisfied that obama promised more money for space research in his campaign and now he's cutting it.

He did increase money on space research - he campaigned for it to go through the private sector.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...e-spaceflight/

ShneekeyTheLost · 02-02-2010, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Eldorian

He did increase money on space research - he campaigned for it to go through the private sector.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...e-spaceflight/

i.e. sending it to the people who helped him get elected...

Gil · 02-02-2010, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Eldorian

He did increase money on space research - he campaigned for it to go through the private sector.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...e-spaceflight/

Not quite what I had in mind. The private sector was doing alright without that aid.

Eldorian · 02-03-2010, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gil

Not quite what I had in mind. The private sector was doing alright without that aid.

I was looking through his campaign promises and there was nothing in there that you're trying to refer to.

Talondale · 02-03-2010, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Eldorian

I find it humorous the same people bitching about this are the same people bitching about the cost of the Health Care reform.

Government spending is government spending... I'm not happy with the budget cuts here for NASA - but I don't understand why the same people would be upset over this that are about spending money on health care. You can't have it both ways.

Well I didn't comment on that as I felt it was slightly OT and didn't want to open that can of worms. But since you did - I have to agree with you to some degree but it can be shown that Space Flight has a military/defense interest involved which is completely a Constitutional responsibility of the Federal government so as it applies to that it is completely justified. The global warming emphasis Obama is now pushing isn't.

tonz0phun · 02-06-2010, 09:38 AM

"No bucks no Buck Rogers"

:-(

Gil · 04-14-2010, 08:58 AM

http://news.discovery.com/space/obam...-capsule.html?

Apparently Obama changed his mind and reached a compromise

ShneekeyTheLost · 04-14-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gil

http://news.discovery.com/space/obam...-capsule.html?

Apparently Obama changed his mind and reached a compromise

Quote:

In the face of united bipartisan opposition to his plans to cancel NASA's follow-on shuttle program...

In other words, even his OWN party complained about that.

Glad to hear we're back in business.

tonz0phun · 04-14-2010, 07:24 PM

YAY!

Bucks means Buck Rogers!

Gil · 04-16-2010, 12:29 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8623691.stm

I was hoping "we choose to go to Mars by 2020" but this will do... I guess.

Talondale · 07-06-2010, 09:09 AM

NASA has a new mission: Reach out to Muslims

tonz0phun · 07-06-2010, 09:53 AM

Say... let's reach out to say... Space? Does that sound good? Call me crazy... but I think that sounds good.

02-02-2010, 02:36 AM	#1
Gil Elite Robot Overlord Inky Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,967	RIP NASA Ares wasn't going great but instead of a reform they killed the whole program. __________________ “A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.” Robert A. Heinlein

02-02-2010, 06:08 AM	#2
Eldorian Elite Inky Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,256	huh?

02-02-2010, 11:14 AM	#5
ShneekeyTheLost The Muttering One Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 725	One of my favorite musicians, Leslie Fish, wrote this song after watching the Moon Landing... This pretty much spits all over that... Worse, it won't really help anything. You could have taken the entire yearly budget for NASA, and spent it every day for the next twenty five YEARS, and still not be more than a drop in the bucket of the amount Obama has spent in the last year. So yea... thanks for killing our hopes of spreading to the stars, Obama. Our children won't. Oh, and here's a link to Time Magazine's article on it: Obama Budget Plan Grounds NASA Last edited by ShneekeyTheLost; 02-02-2010 at 11:34 AM.

02-06-2010, 09:38 AM	#16
tonz0phun Elite Inky Join Date: May 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 909	"No bucks no Buck Rogers" :-( __________________

04-14-2010, 08:58 AM	#17
Gil Elite Robot Overlord Inky Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,967	http://news.discovery.com/space/obam...-capsule.html? Apparently Obama changed his mind and reached a compromise __________________ “A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.” Robert A. Heinlein

02-02-2010, 06:15 AM	#3
Talondale Elite Elven Archer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,458	I think he's refering to Obama's budget proposal including killing the manned moon missions.

02-02-2010, 07:01 AM	#4
Eldorian Elite Inky Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,256	Ah yeah, I heard they were privatizing it instead - which actually could maybe speed up the process...

02-02-2010, 12:29 PM	#6
Eldorian Elite Inky Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,256	I find it humorous the same people bitching about this are the same people bitching about the cost of the Health Care reform. Government spending is government spending... I'm not happy with the budget cuts here for NASA - but I don't understand why the same people would be upset over this that are about spending money on health care. You can't have it both ways.

04-14-2010, 07:24 PM	#19
tonz0phun Elite Inky Join Date: May 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 909	YAY! Bucks means Buck Rogers! __________________

04-16-2010, 12:29 AM	#20
Gil Elite Robot Overlord Inky Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,967	http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8623691.stm I was hoping "we choose to go to Mars by 2020" but this will do... I guess. __________________ “A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.” Robert A. Heinlein

07-06-2010, 09:09 AM	#21
Talondale Elite Elven Archer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,458	NASA has a new mission: Reach out to Muslims

07-06-2010, 09:53 AM	#22
tonz0phun Elite Inky Join Date: May 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 909	Say... let's reach out to say... Space? Does that sound good? Call me crazy... but I think that sounds good. __________________